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Friday, November 20, 2009


Bob Yang vs. Bonnie Glaser on Riz Khan

Obama's cross-strait conundrum

Formosan Association for Public Affairs (FAPA) president Dr. Bob Yang (advocating for an independent Taiwan) and Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) Freeman Chair in China Studies senior fellow and US government consultant Bonnie Glaser (read Michael Turton's eloquent description of her position) sat down with Al Jazeera's Riz Khan on November 17, 2009 to discuss recent events affecting the Taiwan-US-China relationship.

Here's the show in two parts. Watch it in a larger viewer by clicking the titles below each video.

13:01 YouTube video: "Riz Khan - Obama's cross-straits conundrum - 17 Nov 09 - Pt 1"

9:29 YouTube video: "Riz Khan - Obama's cross-straits conundrum - 17 Nov 09 - Pt 2"

At the end, Glaser talks about the majority supporting "the status quo," muddying the waters for those who don't realize that Taiwan is not now and has never been part of the People's Republic of China (PRC), but it is nice to at least hear her admit that without China's threats, the vast majority of Taiwanese would have no qualms about declaring independence.

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Cross-posted at It's Not Democracy, It's A Conspiracy!

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At 6:29 PM, Blogger STOP Ma said...

I was very impressed with Dr. Yang in this discussion. He hit some crucial points that are rarely discussed. For example, it is China -- not Taiwan -- that is breaking the status quo with such moves as the anti-secession law passed in 2005 and the ever increasing build-up of more than 1500+ missiles pointed directly at the country.

What's truly breathtaking (but not surprising) is that Glaser acknowledges all of this and yet expresses absolutely no sense of caution with respect to the recent non-reciprocating agreements made between the two countries.

Even the most intellectually incurious would have a hard time NOT spotting the $$$ and loyalty in her bias.

She may have recognized that the overwhelming majority of Taiwanese prefer independence if the military threat is gone, but she actually advocates increasing this threat to Taiwan by "normalizing" this lack of balance in the current capitulation that is taking place courtesy of the KMT.

She couldn't give a shit about Taiwan. And her smugness shows at the end with her smiling when Dr. Yang mentions that China does not respect both freedom or human rights.

Come to think of it, I would be smiling myself. But it probably wouldn't be for the same reason. The U.S.A.'s record on human rights and freedoms has been somewhat of a joke itself lately.

At 9:43 PM, Blogger Tim Maddog said...

Very good observations, Stop Ma. Breathtaking, indeed.

I've added the words "at least" to the last paragraph, in case anyone might misinterpret what I meant by "nice."

Tim Maddog

At 5:15 AM, Blogger Paul said...

I reject and resent the accusation that I don't "give a shit about Taiwan." It is also nonsense that there are "$$$ and loyalty" that influence my views. Clearly "STOP Ma" is completely unfamiliar with my writings and positions. I find it humorous, however, that I am frequently the target of attack from the DPP, Mainland China, and the KMT. Issues are often complex and defy neat characterizations. What should be clear, however, is that I am pro-U.S.

At 6:25 AM, Blogger Tim Maddog said...

"Paul" = Bonnie Glaser?

Tim Maddog

At 7:13 PM, Blogger Michael Turton said...

Even the most intellectually incurious would have a hard time NOT spotting the $$$ and loyalty in her bias.

How? We all know what agendas are being represented here, because we know from experience what everyone stands for. But how can anyone know that CSIS is a center-right corporatist think tank without the media informing them? The problem isn't that Glaser and Yang have agendas -- it is perfectly OK to have an agenda -- it is the media treatment of them that counts.

So far there doesn't seem to be a way to fix that problem. Which is one reason blogs have exploded. The media can put blogs out of business any time simply by improving the way the news is handled. So far it looks like the media is the one that is going out of business. That's really really bad news.



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