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Saturday, October 27, 2007

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The KMT in Taiwan vs. the GOP in the USA

The tactics of those on the wrong side of right
A story in Friday's Taipei Times helped to bring together several ideas which I'd read on US political blogs. The Taipei Times story was about a Taiwanese official's difficulties in getting his driver's license properly labeled:
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs yesterday called on the Japanese government to correct the nation's description on its alien resident certificates and other related documents from "China" to either "Republic of China" or "Taiwan."

Tsai Ming-yao (蔡明耀), deputy secretary-general of the ministry-affiliated Association of East Asian Relations, made the appeal at a press conference in response to a media inquiry.

[...]

When staying in Japan Tsai said he had complained to the Japanese government when the nationality column on his driving license was marked "China." But the Japanese vehicle office told Tsai he had to choose either PRC or China, saying that they were the only two options allowed in the country's rules and regulations..
What the hell kind of "choice" is that? Let's see how that looks through the filter of this post on the Crooks and Liars blog from earlier this year:
Lest we forget FOX did this a few weeks ago with a poll about MoveOn "taking over" the Democratic Party. The misleading way FOX asks questions reminds me of this exchange from "Family Guy":
Lawyer: Mr Griffin, which of the following two phrases best describes Brian Griffin: Problem Drinker or African-American Haberdasher?
Peter: Uh, do I-I guess problem drinker, but that's uh-
Lawyer: Thank-you. Now: Sexual deviant or magic picture that if you stare at it long enough, you see something?
Peter: Well, sexual deviant, but that other one's not even, eh-
Lawyer: Thank-you.
See the problem? No? Well, where are you from -- the moon or Mars?

But back to the Taipei Times article (continuing directly from the first quoted section):
"Of course, I didn't go for PRC," Tsai said, adding that the government would continue to negotiate with Japan in order to come up with a solution that was acceptable to both sides
Hmmm... "a solution that was acceptable to both sides." Where have I encountered that before? Oh, yeah. It was in a This Modern World comic by Tom Tomorrow:

Tom Tomorrow's ''This Modern World''
Click image to view the whole thing.
(If there's an ad, wait for it to finish,
and click "Enter Salon.")


I can almost see the "compromise" now.

But wait, there's more!
What Digby said about the Republicans (but she could've been describing the KMT) was this:
I first noticed the right's successful use of phony sanctimony and faux outrage back in the 90's when well-known conservative players like Gingrich and Livingston pretended to be offended at the president's extramarital affair and were repeatedly and tiresomely "upset" about fund-raising practices they all practiced themselves. The idea of these powerful and corrupt adulterers being personally upset by White House coffees and naughty sexual behavior was laughable.

But they did it, oh how they did it, and it often succeeded in changing the dialogue and tittilating the media into a frenzy of breathless tabloid coverage.

In fact, they became so good at the tactic that they now rely on it as their first choice to control the political dialogue when it becomes uncomfortable and put the Democrats on the defensive whenever they are winning the day. Perhaps the best example during the Bush years would be the completely cynical and over-the-top reaction to Senator Paul Wellstone's memorial rally in 2002 in the last couple of weeks leading up to the election.

With the exception of the bizarre Jesse Ventura, those in attendance, including the Republicans, were non-plussed by the nature of the event at the time. It was not, as the chatterers insisted, a funeral, but rather more like an Irish wake for Wellstone supporters — a celebration of Wellstone's life, which included, naturally, politics. (He died campaigning, after all.) But Vin Weber, one of the Republican party's most sophisticated operatives, immediately saw the opportunity for a faux outrage fest that was more successful than even he could have ever dreamed.

By the time they were through, the Democrats were prostrating themselves at the feet of anyone who would listen, begging for forgiveness for something they didn't do, just to stop the shrieking. The Republicans could barely keep the smirks off their faces as they sternly lectured the Democrats on how to properly honor the dead — the same Republicans who had relentlessly tortured poor Vince Foster's family for years.

It's an excellent technique and one they continue to employ with great success, most recently with the entirely fake Move-On and Pete Stark "controversies." (The Democrats try their own versions but rarely achieve the kind of full blown hissy fit the Republicans can conjure with a mere blast fax to Drudge and their talk radio minions.)
Sound familiar? As with China's constant counterfactual claims about "being provoked," the KMT in Taiwan seems to have a similar policy in place. With their minions on the multitudinous pan-blue blab-fests at their behest, any mediocre event can be turned into weeks', months', or even years' worth of noise. Just look at Jaw Shaw-kong's latest for a perfect example.

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Cross-posted at It's Not Democracy, It's A Conspiracy!

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7 Comments:

At 2:06 PM, Blogger walter said...

Well I'm actually lean more conservative there Michael and I don't see too many liberals out there supporting Taiwan....(I've gotten wiser in recent years, then I'm a Christian also...)

Then I'm sure you know about the Republican/Democrat polls regarding should we Americans support Taiwan..

I mean you yourself have often noted where are the Dems when it comes to supporting Taiwan...

People that have supported Taiwan are mainly Republicans or conservatives... (at least in my view) I may be wrong though..

 
At 4:33 PM, Blogger Tim Maddog said...

Walter, this is not Michael's post.

Furthermore, this post is about tactics -- not who supports Taiwan. Nevertheless, there are Dems who support Taiwan. I won't venture to analyze this support at this point in time.

It may be obvious to you that I'm rather liberal in my views, but don't pigeonhole me there.

For your info, here's what the recent Zogby survey says:
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... the more familiar Americans were with Taiwan, the more likely they were to its membership.
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Tim Maddog

 
At 11:14 AM, Blogger walter said...

Tim, yes it's not Michael's but at certain points in the article he did make statements of his own...


As for you being liberal, I really don't mind...trust me. A recent Zogby poll showed that more liberals suppported Taiwan's membership in the U.N. than conservatives, and yet liberals backed down when it came to opposing China's stance on Taiwan's membership.

The reality is China's opposition and Taiwan needs more than just vocal support from liberals. It needs somebody to stand down China.

And yes I read the poll and it actually backs up what I'm saying:

That the liberals supported Taiwan only when not faced with Chinese pressure.

The conservatives were more supportive of Taiwan when it came to China's opposition.

Furthermore, it is VERY WELL KNOWN what the conservatives think of the U.N. The conservatives would rather the United States be OUT of the U.N....

So when you look at the poll err Tim, it's actually pretty consistent.

No wonder the Taiwanese prefer to vote Republican... Hahahaha.

You can't deny it.

 
At 11:18 AM, Blogger walter said...

To both Michael and Tim read the following:


The survey, conducted Sept. 6-10, 2007, shows that 61% believe the U.S. government should support Taiwan's petition to gain membership in the international body just as it did recently for Kosovo. Asked whether the UN should offer Taiwan membership, 55% of American adults said it should. Perhaps seeing it as a matter of consistency in dealing with allies around the world, American progressives are very supportive of this stance for the U.S. However, conservatives were not so sure. Among the very liberal, 77% said the U.S. should go to bat for Taiwan membership, compared to just 52% of those who considered themselves very conservative.


If the people of Taiwan pass a referendum to join the New York-based body, 70% of respondents in the survey said the U.S. should not oppose the island nation's petition to join. Since the early 1990s, Taiwan has applied for membership but has never won it because of opposition from Beijing, which, as a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council, holds veto power over such applications.


Asked whether the U.S. should oppose China's stance on Taiwan's membership in the body and help Taiwan win membership in the UN, 52% agreed it should. On this question, conservatives were more supportive of Taiwan's cause than were liberals. Among the very conservative, 72% agreed the U.S. should help Taiwan, while just 48% of the very liberal agreed.


The survey included 1,205 U.S. adults nationwide and carries a margin of error of +/- 2.9 percentage points.



*Note that the liberals were suddenly "gone" once the question of China came into the equation.

Does Taiwan need people like that? Or do they need people who'll actually face up to China regardless of consequences?

Err you tell me Tim Maddog. You may be liberal, but man, you got a long way to go in persuading the liberals to oppose China...hahahaha.

 
At 9:50 AM, Blogger B.BarNavi said...

"Look over there!" Walter,

If the Taiwanese-American population can make the similarities between White Terror and Watergate (didn't Nixon go to China?), I'm sure they'll realize which side of their bread is buttered. Like most of us (Not just Taiwanese but Asian-Americans in general) do.
Likewise, with KMT ballotbox antics and GOP shenanigans in Florida, Ohio...

 
At 1:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's easy to say but you're way too ideal. my father is a diplomat and i know how difficult it is to try to gain recognition for taiwan abroad. alot of things can only be done little by little, step by step. yet even alot of times, even if we had tried very hard, china can just jump in n offer more money or etc. And, in reality, who will not lean towards china? or rather who dares go against china? if any country has the guts to do so...then things would have been easier but then even america does not. so i dont think you have the right to come and make a bunch of crappy comments on taiwan matters.

 
At 9:30 PM, Blogger Tim Maddog said...

Anonymous, who is your point about "crappy comments" directed at?

Tim Maddog

 

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